• alternative_factor@kbin.social
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    Everything you posted is circumstantial and CVOID is not like the flu in presentation. In fact to compare COVID to flu is conpiratorial in nature so I’m cutting it off with you here.
    “It makes it absurd to tie things up nice and simply as “oh, and there’s a virology lab in that city of 11 million people. Must have been a leak”. We have no idea.”
    I did not say for sure it came from a lab, I am saying that if it did it probably came from the one in Wuhan, and you even aknowledge that I said the most likely case is pangolins in China, I’m going to just cut it off with you now because unfortunately you contradict yourself way to much and you’re basically stuck in circular logic that it can’t have come from china because you don’t want it to have come from China.
    You admit the first report comes from Wuhan, and all the genetic evidence points to it having come from an animal that had to be from asia at the very least, but then do another 180 and say well maybe it was from another place in asia, even though the first reports are from china, then you say I for sure said it was from a lab while I did not say that.

    But for the last thing I say let me show you what COVID relatives we are talking about here, in order of how related they are to covid:
    -RPYN06- first sequenced in China’s Yunnan provience
    -RMYN02 - Also Yunnan province
    -PrC31- also Yunan province
    These are the closest relatives of COVID, they are ALL from China’s Yunnan province.

    Other relatives:
    RAtg13 - Also Yunnan province
    RshSTT183 - Actually cambodia! only five degrees of seperation!!
    RshSTT200- Cambodia too
    CoVZC45- Uh oh! China again!
    CoVZXC21- China again again
    longquan140- China

    so yeah, it’s obviously from china. All of is ancestor are from China, except for the two from Cambodia and there’s no contesting that.

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      Covid absolutely is like the flu in presentation to ordinary people. That’s quite literally how the warning was communicated to the general public. Here’s quite literally the first sentence from my local health authority’s guidance.

      Flu and COVID-19 The symptoms of COVID-19 (coronavirus) are like flu symptoms. The main difference is that you usually do not have shortness of breath when you have the flu.

      https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/flu/symptoms-diagnosis/

      At no point have I said it can’t have come from China. I said quite the opposite. I’m saying the first report coming from Wuhan in particular and a single wet market from the thousands in China when the specific virus had already spread internationally anywhere from 3 to 6 months earlier is an absurd thing for you to insist it came from Wuhan originally, and a ridiculous thing to make you say ‘most likely from the lab because they were studying bats’. Because yes, you did say it was ‘most likely’ from the Wuhan lab.

      You’re trying to paint me as a conspiracy theorist because you like your own baseless conspiracy theory?

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          the virus is 99% similar to that of one found in Chinese pangolins. The 1% genetic difference could come from a lab on accident, but that would most likely be from the Wuhan lab

          Did you, like, forget your own post? “On accident”?