FSL is better than strait proprietary and if a company had to choose between the two I hope they choose FSL. All that said it just doesn’t feel like there is a real hope here for the eventual Open source fork here. It’s just a fail safe for people still on legacy systems and even then 2 years of potentially no new updates … Could be killer for security flaws. With tons of paradigm shifts between then too.

It almost needs a SLA that says if it isn’t maintained to a certain level then it is also opensourced.

Libre Software was/is the best strict definition of this to me.

Man, the Opencompute foundation work just gets no love even from people to trying to simp Facebook’s work in opensource.

I was a computer enthusiast on a budget, so trying out new software to tinker with and rice my desktop was pretty limited until I really got into Linux. Which I started to feel I had to when I hit more and more limits on windows.

They need that to dual license, no?

Another good example in the fediverse space is peertube too!

For me I’ve had issues with getting organzational support for use anything close to p2p, with things like “keep that bot net off my system” being said. On personal side I had issues with ISPs assuming traffic was illegal in nature and sending me bogus cease and desist notices.

Agreed though. At least webrtc has a strong market. IPFS and other web3 things also have tried to find footholds in common use, so the fight isn’t over for sure!

Synergy that!

Synergy that!

Hey, at least remote works been really putting nails in the coffin of printed documents floating around.

But seriously keeping to a good set of tools, providing them at scale and some training will hopefully make the fall back to spreadsheets less attractive to at least the middle wave of adopters.

Right. Paid Gitlabs features tend to be targeted as an all in one DevOps platform for larger scale organizations. So how do you do support tickets, CI/CD, feature tracking and coordination for a portfolio of products, documentation, revision control, code reviews, security reviews, etc? In Gitlabs world the answer is Gitlab, with integrations with other enterprise software. It’s HUGE. That said I’ve never heard of an organization (probably due to ignorance not lack of existence) actually doing all of that.

I personally I’m kind of leaning towards building a proof of concept of forgejo, tekton, and maybe Odoo to see if it can cover what my org is actually doing, but he’ll we pay for tons of stuff but the amount of excell sheets floating around doing this is wild…

Being FOSS doesn’t it make secure, but it doesn’t make it more possible for people to actually test and secure it (people with less interests in it being seen as secure, but instead actually secure).

It’s a harder con to build a real looking fake safe, hoping no one will actually test it out, then just lying about what’s behind a curtain no one is allowed to look behind.

This risk extends even more to non-foss software though as organic fixes can’t happen and the company that owns it HAS to fix it for you. Not all purchase agreements say they have to do this, and again it is our organizations that bare the risk then.

To be honest I’m a FOSS advocate, but when I recommend software I absolutely mention that getting devs (capable of fixing that software) in a SLA for critical bugs is what the absolutely should do, or accept the security risk or operational risk of insecure software.

I’ve been tossing around CI pipelines for my work just for mirroring because of the patch work of support that repos have right now …

The RAIL one?

You can disable the sharing aspect and just download. I mean I agree it’s the law there that is wrong.

Same way Firefox does. Trade marks. They want to protect the reputation of their trade marks, that is enforceable, and then they can let people fork to their hearts content (waterfox, iceweasle, librewolf, the tor browser, etc).

You can make Deb and rpm from nix packages supposedly.

https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nixpkgs/Building_RPM_DEB_with_nixpkgs

Sticking to reproduceable builds also makes sense for development and troubleshooting, less variables to run down.