The catarrhine who invented a perpetual motion machine, by dreaming at night and devouring its own dreams through the day.

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  • Trying to automate things and decrease mod burden is great, so I don’t oppose OP’s idea on general grounds. My issues are with two specific points:

    • Punish content authors or take action on content via word blacklist/regex
    • Ban members of communities by their usernames/bios via word blacklist or regex
    1. Automated systems don’t understand what people say within a context. As such, it’s unjust and abusive to use them to punish people based on what they say.
    2. This sort of automated system is extra easy to circumvent for malicious actors, specially since they need to be tuned in a way that lowers the amount of false positives (unjust bans) and this leads to a higher amount of false negatives (crap going past the radar).
    3. Something that I’ve seen over and over in Reddit, that mods here will likely do in a similar way, is to shift the blame to automod. “NOOOO, I’m not unjust. I didn’t ban you incorrectly! It was automod lol lmao”

    Instead of those two I think that a better use of regex would be an automated reporting system, bringing potentially problematic users/pieces of content to the attention of human mods.


  • That’s a good text. I’ve been comparing those “LLM smurt!” crowds with Christian evangelists, due to their common usage of fallacies like inversion of burden of proof, changing goalposts, straw man, etc.

    However it seems that people who believe in psychics might be a more accurate comparison.

    That said LLMs are great tools to retrieve info when you aren’t too concerned about accuracy, or when you can check the accuracy yourself. For example the ChatGPT output of prompts like

    • “Give me a few [language] words that can be used to translate the [language] word [word]”
    • “[Decline|Conjugate] the [language] word [word]”
    • “Spell-proof the following sentence: [sentence]”

    is really good. I’m still concerned about the sheer inefficiency of the process though, energy-wise.





  • Choosing weaker forms sounds sensible - my criticism is which ones.

    Many people react that way but think about it a little more. It’s a fact. Mutliuple Black people have proven it repeatedly.

    Yup, I know that it’s a fact. You aren’t being fallacious, but the way that you phrased it sounds like that fallacy, so it’s a matter of clarity.

    It’s the same deal as the “post less”, you know? People are misunderstanding you.

    [from the other comment] That’s a great point, can I quote you on having seen it on Lemmy quite a few times?

    Feel free to do so! However keep in mind that I didn’t really keep track of them, so if someone says “do you have proofs?” I have no way to back it up.





  • Readers, beware

    I don’t see myself as part of a racially marginalised group, and I’m no expert on racial issues. (I’m just a translator with some bg on Linguistics).

    I’m also from LatAm. I expect most readers here to be from CA/USA; be aware that racial marginalisation works through different ways in both sides.

    Because of both please take what I say with a grain of salt. I hope that I’m contributing.

    I like where this text is going. As such, my criticism here is mostly on better ways to convey some points, plus additional info.

    Title + Intro

    Subbing “start making” for “make” highlights better that every little change matters, and is easier to read.

    In this context “more welcoming” says the same as “less toxic”, but the former should be better to “sell” to the readers the idea that they can and should contribute. (Plus the word “toxic” is bound to make some people roll eyes and ignore the message.)

    1. Listen more to more Black people

    It would be great if your text addressed people who shut up marginalised groups while claiming to speak in their names; it sounds a lot like “I’m an ally so chrust me, you don’t need to listen to [group], lissen to ME! ME! ME! instead.” I’ve seen this too often in social media, including here. Black people probably have a lot more to talk about this than I do.

    1. Post less – and think before you post

    Simply saying “post less” is bound to rub off people the wrong way, specially when removed from context (plenty people won’t read the section past that), as plenty people are aware that the Fediverse needs more content.

    Sadly I’m not certain on a good way to rephrase this without erasing the message. (Perhaps merge it with #1? Just an idea.)

    Stop asking Black people for evidence [… whole paragraph]

    I believe that the conclusion within this bullet point is accurate and moral, but the whole package needs some serious rewording.

    IMO a better approach here is to highlight that all those “excuuuuse me, where are the proofs that you’re subjected to racism in the Fediverse?” are a form of sealioning, regardless of the intention of the people asking it. Black person be asked once, they provide the bloody proof; be asked twice, they roll their eyes but still do it; be asked for the 1000th time, they get pissed and leave.

    I’m saying this because, the way that this point is currently worded, it sounds fallacious (inversion of the burden of the proof). And even if most people can’t quite identify fallacies, it still ticks a lot of them off, they know that “something” is wrong.

    Stop telling Black people that they’ll experience less racism if they change instances […]

    It’s actually worse: it’s a form of racial segregation. It’s like telling them “you won’t experience racism if you sit in the back of the bus”.

    Black people should feel comfortable to use the same spaces as everyone else.

    Stop saying the fediverse […]

    I think that this bullet point is perfect as it is. Just commenting on the underlying issue:

    A lot of people here confuse personal experiences with general statements. Even if the Fediverse, in general, was friendlier or nicer towards marginalised groups, it doesn’t really matter when someone is pissed and trying to vent their bad experience, you know?

    Also ablism

    Just highlighting a typo. No issue with the message.









  • It does seem to be the case for me - I’ve seen far less overexcited comments, and far more questioning its present and future abilities to perform.

    I think that at the bottom of the trough people will stop caring about it altogether except for functionality that has been proven to be useful for - such as a translation aid, coding aid, or to quickly pull off multiple images if you don’t mind overall quality.

    I just generated a fresh example highlighting it. I’ll put it inside spoilers to avoid clutter:

    German and English, ChatGPT 3.5
    • [Input 1] translate the following German sentence into English: “der Hund ist schlecht”.
    • [Output1] The dog is bad.
    • [Input 2] Which word is being translated as “bad”?
    • [Output 2] The word “schlecht” is being translated as “bad” in this context.
    • [Input 3] What are other meanings or connotations of the word “schlecht”?
    • [Output 3] In addition to “bad,” the word “schlecht” in German can also mean “poor,” “inferior,” “evil,” or “unwell,” depending on the context in which it is used.
    • [Input 4] Now, translate the sentence “the bad dog is sleeping” into German.
    • [Output 4] “Der schlechte Hund schläft.”
    • [Input 5] Why is it “schlechte” in this sentence, instead of “schlecht” as in the earlier sentence?
    • [Output 5] In German, adjectives change their form based on the gender, number, and case of the noun they are describing. In this case, “Hund” is a masculine noun in the nominative case, so the adjective “bad” (schlecht) needs to take the masculine nominative form, which is “schlechte.”

    It’s working rather well as a translation aid as long as you know the language, as it could help you to phrase a sentence. However, once you ask for specific info - as I did in input #5 - it drops the ball; in this case outputting technically correct but misleading and incomplete info:

    • The form also depends on the article. For example, if I were to use “ein” (a) instead of “der” (the), the correct form would be “schlechter
    • The way that the output is phrased, it implies that the “schlecht” in the first sentence is not describing a masculine noun in the nominative. It is - and the actual reason why it takes the form “schlecht” is not mentioned in the output (predicatives take the base form).

    [und nebenbei: alle Hunde sind gut.]

    In the “overexcitement peak”, I think that a lot of people were focusing on the correct output, and assuming that the rest would be solved “with enough elbow grease”, playing whack-a-mole with hallucinations. Now they’re noticing that it isn’t.